Newbie here, so maybe this has been asked before.
I just received delivery of my new 1025R w/60D Autoconnect. It is replacing my LA 145 48". In addition to my 2 acres. I have to cut an acre pond with narrow 25' wide embankments that approach 15-17 degrees of slope (up to 30% percent grade). I had no problem with this on my LA145 - AND with cutting across the slopes.
My dealer said anything a LA145 can do, a 1025R can do better and safer! - That inked the sale. Actually 2 dealers told me that. I'm not sure that statement is true now, and may be best subject to legal opinion.
So, here's my question:
All JD LA and D series residential equipment is certified to ANSI B71.1 (a standard that includes maximum front to back and side to side roll-over angles)
http://www.exmark.com/pdfs/safety_st...comparison.pdf
I always felt super safe mowing across the pond slopes in the low go-cart profile of the LA145. B71.1 certifies its lateral side to side tip over at 25 degrees slope. 30 degrees from front to back. Pretty amazing if you think about it (30 degrees down hill and your brakes won't usually work, you just slide on the tires, but you won't roll over end over end) ( I tried it to make a mini ski hill).
It felt uncomfortable, at times, mowing sideways, wanting to lean into the hill at some points, but I was some 8 degrees less than the tip over certification. It seemed safe enough to let the teenager to mow.
3 Years now with the teenager at the wheel, no problems, even with him going too fast and hitting ruts as teenagers do.
The 1025R
Now I look at the COMMERCIAL ANSI B71.4 standard and it is only 20 degrees lateral before tip over. OK, so have to be more careful with higher center of gravity; but I was never more than 17 degrees (measured in 9 places across pond).
BUT NOW IM REALLY WORRIED, as I can't find any documentation that my 1025R even meets the ANSI B71.4 commercial standard. (JD proudly boasts ANSI B71.4 on other tractors like golf course machines). But no mention of the 1 Series. Please help if I missed it somehow and it is certified.
Is the 1025/6/3 certified to ANY standard, or is it trial and error until you roll? (I did read the 1026R rollover thread with great interest - and terrified -but it seems that pushing the limits with a steep slope of 22 degree slope or 40% grade, and the FEL was actually sideways? .
I just want to be SUPER SAFE; I realize a 16-17 degree slope is a no-brainer up and down, and maybe sideways, but I have a young teenager in training, who always want to push the pedal. Any advice/comments appreciated. Any money is not an issue if can make it more safer. Eg, would a rear 60" blade down at near grade help on the sideways slopes on the 3 point hitch? Or more front ballast? in case a tire ever lifted, would a rear blade on a 3 point hitch help at all to prevent a roll over?
I've mowed it twice, and no problems, but I go 1 MPH: I want every back up that money can buy, for the teenager that wont listen to me saying go 1 MPH. I at least have him wearing the seatbelt and ROPS up all the time. Those MIFACE post mortems on farm accidents and roll overs are enough to make any one "LIVE WITH SAFETY"
from Michigan State University Occupational & Environmental Medicine on farm
Thks,
-THX
2013 1025R
60D AutoConnect MMM; Turf Tires
47" FE Snowblower
2008 LA145
48" MMM
http://www.exmark.com/pdfs/safety_st...comparison.pdf
I just received delivery of my new 1025R w/60D Autoconnect. It is replacing my LA 145 48". In addition to my 2 acres. I have to cut an acre pond with narrow 25' wide embankments that approach 15-17 degrees of slope (up to 30% percent grade). I had no problem with this on my LA145 - AND with cutting across the slopes.
My dealer said anything a LA145 can do, a 1025R can do better and safer! - That inked the sale. Actually 2 dealers told me that. I'm not sure that statement is true now, and may be best subject to legal opinion.
So, here's my question:
All JD LA and D series residential equipment is certified to ANSI B71.1 (a standard that includes maximum front to back and side to side roll-over angles)
http://www.exmark.com/pdfs/safety_st...comparison.pdf
I always felt super safe mowing across the pond slopes in the low go-cart profile of the LA145. B71.1 certifies its lateral side to side tip over at 25 degrees slope. 30 degrees from front to back. Pretty amazing if you think about it (30 degrees down hill and your brakes won't usually work, you just slide on the tires, but you won't roll over end over end) ( I tried it to make a mini ski hill).
It felt uncomfortable, at times, mowing sideways, wanting to lean into the hill at some points, but I was some 8 degrees less than the tip over certification. It seemed safe enough to let the teenager to mow.
3 Years now with the teenager at the wheel, no problems, even with him going too fast and hitting ruts as teenagers do.
The 1025R
Now I look at the COMMERCIAL ANSI B71.4 standard and it is only 20 degrees lateral before tip over. OK, so have to be more careful with higher center of gravity; but I was never more than 17 degrees (measured in 9 places across pond).
BUT NOW IM REALLY WORRIED, as I can't find any documentation that my 1025R even meets the ANSI B71.4 commercial standard. (JD proudly boasts ANSI B71.4 on other tractors like golf course machines). But no mention of the 1 Series. Please help if I missed it somehow and it is certified.
Is the 1025/6/3 certified to ANY standard, or is it trial and error until you roll? (I did read the 1026R rollover thread with great interest - and terrified -but it seems that pushing the limits with a steep slope of 22 degree slope or 40% grade, and the FEL was actually sideways? .
I just want to be SUPER SAFE; I realize a 16-17 degree slope is a no-brainer up and down, and maybe sideways, but I have a young teenager in training, who always want to push the pedal. Any advice/comments appreciated. Any money is not an issue if can make it more safer. Eg, would a rear 60" blade down at near grade help on the sideways slopes on the 3 point hitch? Or more front ballast? in case a tire ever lifted, would a rear blade on a 3 point hitch help at all to prevent a roll over?
I've mowed it twice, and no problems, but I go 1 MPH: I want every back up that money can buy, for the teenager that wont listen to me saying go 1 MPH. I at least have him wearing the seatbelt and ROPS up all the time. Those MIFACE post mortems on farm accidents and roll overs are enough to make any one "LIVE WITH SAFETY"
from Michigan State University Occupational & Environmental Medicine on farm
Thks,
-THX
2013 1025R
60D AutoConnect MMM; Turf Tires
47" FE Snowblower
2008 LA145
48" MMM
http://www.exmark.com/pdfs/safety_st...comparison.pdf